Some of you will recognize Leo Fitzpatrick from Kids, Pee-wee’s Big Holiday, Doomsdays, or The Wire. Others know him as a fixture in New York’s art world, having run the experimental project space Home Alone 2 Gallery in the Lower East Side with Nate Lowman and Hanna Liden for several years before settling into his current role at Marlborough in Chelsea. As part of the NADA New York Art Fair this year, Humor and the Abject hosted a live episode on-site and invited Leo out to discuss his unique history. We talked about skate videos, Alex Jones, working with artists from older generations including his decades-long friendship with Larry Clark, why the artist is always right, the time Roger Ebert said he wanted to punch him in the face, parenting, his early obsession with Uncle Floyd’s public access show in New Jersey, why he doesn’t watch his own movies, his diet of bad TV, his favorite acting role ever on Adult Swim that nobody saw, and then I get really upset that he’s never seen Drinking Out of Cups. The outro song is XTC’s “Making Plans for Nigel.” Special thanks to Andrea Merkx and Zack Tornaben from NADA.